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Fieldfox N9923矢量电压表B/A结果不稳定

嗨,当使用HP8508a时,B / A的结果非常稳定,因为它不会波动很多。
但是当我使用fieldfox N9923时,值会不断跳跃。
是因为我没有选项122 T校准套件,这就是为什么它不稳定?

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  Hi,

when using  HP8508a, the result for B/A is very stable,as in it does not fluctuate alot. but when i use fieldfox N9923, the values keep jumping. is it because i do not have the option 122 T calibration kit that's why it is unstable?  

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孔德羲

2018-12-14 17:16:06
我不确定,但更多的可能是HP8508使用锁相环实际锁定在输入信号上。
我不知道Fieldfox会进行这样的锁相,因此如果信号不在通带中,则A和B路径的微小差异会导致抖动。
10 MHz的信号源和Fieldfox是否捆绑在一起?

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  I don't know for sure, but more likley that the HP8508 actually locked onto the input signal using a phase lock loop.  I don't know that the Fieldfox does such a phase locking, and so slight differences in the paths to A and B can cause jitter if the signal is not precisely in the pas***and.  Are the 10 MHz of the signal source and the Fieldfox tied together?
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2018-12-14 17:34:39
引用: 脑洞大赛9 发表于 2018-12-14 11:58
我不确定,但更多的可能是HP8508使用锁相环实际锁定在输入信号上。
我不知道Fieldfox会进行这样的锁相,因此如果信号不在通带中,则A和B路径的微小差异会导致抖动。
10 MHz的信号源和Fieldfox是否捆绑在一起?

嗨,谢谢你的回复!
是的,我确实从我的sig gen连接了10MHz。
但它仍然波动。
如果fieldfox没有锁相功能,我该怎么做才能解决这个问题呢?

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  Hi, thanks for reply!
yes, i did connect the 10MHz from my sig gen. but it still fluctuates. if the fieldfox does not have the phase locking function, what can i do to solve this?
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乔丽娜

2018-12-14 17:44:00
引用: jia1993win 发表于 2018-12-14 12:16
嗨,谢谢你的回复!
是的,我确实从我的sig gen连接了10MHz。
但它仍然波动。

请检查您的VVM是否已调整到与外部信号源调谐到的频率相同的频率。
使用“Freq”硬键并设置信号源的频率。
如果这没有帮助,您可以发布您的确切设置,以尝试在此处复制问题吗?
重要的信息将是您的连接设置,任何附加的附件,以及呈现给VVM输入的频率和功率级别。
谢谢!
PC3

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  Please check to see that your VVM is tuned to the same frequency your external source is tuned to. Use the "Freq" hardkey and set your source's frequency. 

If this does not help, can you post your exact setup for us to try to duplicate the issue here? The important info would be your connection setup, any attached accessories, and what frequency and power levels that are being presented to the VVM inputs. 

Thanks! 

pc3
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乔丽娜

2018-12-14 18:03:01

DUT是被动还是主动?
DUT是什么类型的设备?
尝试移除DUT并将分离器臂直接连接到VVM的port1和port2,以查看它是否仍然不稳定。
如果它在没有DUT的情况下变得稳定,则DUT中可能存在问题,导致DUT中的信号丢失。
如果将源与Splitter-Input直接连接到VVM不能产生稳定的测量,请确保源的频率与调谐VVM的频率相同。
此VVM不会自动调整频率,因此您必须始终手动设置它。
如果仪器仍然不稳定,那么我担心VVM中可能存在问题。
对VVM功能的快速测试将遵循以下过程:将外部源连接到分离器。
将信号源调至1GHz(或任何属于VVM频率范围的频率.1G适合测试)确认您的信号源输出一个约0dBm的非调制CW音调进入分配器输入。
验证分离器是否正在为模型分离器生成具有正确功率下降的输出。
(检查两个端口)确保从分路器连接到VVM的任何电缆都通电(检查两根电缆是否有故障)。
使用“Freq”硬键然后使用Frequency软键将VVM设置为1GHz,然后输入您的频率。
将分离器的输出臂连接到VVM的端口1和端口2。
观察显示的信号。
如果信号仍然变化很多(几个dB,或几度),那么我怀疑VVM有问题。
我希望这有助于您获得解决方案。
请再次告知您的DUT设备类型。
如果DUT正在转换频率,或者在一只手臂上大量丢弃信号,我会特别担心。
我在没有DUT的情况下在我的工作台上重复了这个测量,并且可以确认您是否按照上面的说明操作,结果将是dB和相位的稳定值。
N9923A将显示相位偏移,屏幕上会显示一个小的dB值,可以通过将仪表归零来消除。
如果更改IFBW或频率,则必须重新归零。
在零之后,在其中一个分离器臂上插入额外长度的电缆应显示相位偏移的增加和额外的dB偏移,这是您对A / B或B / A比率的预期。
最诚挚的问候,pc3

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  Is the DUT passive or active? What kind of device is the DUT? 

Try removing the DUT and connecting the splitter arms directly to port1 and port2 of the VVM to see if it remains unstable. If it becomes stable without the DUT, there could be an issue in your DUT causing signal to be lost coming out of your DUT. 

If the direct connection of the Source to Splitter-Input to VVM  does not produce stable measurement, please ensure the frequency of the source is the same as the frequency you tune the VVM to. This VVM does not autotune the frequency so you must always set it manually. 

If the instrument still remains unstable, then I am worried there could be a problem in the VVM.

A quick test of the VVM functionality would be to follow this process:

Connect your external source to your splitter. 
Tune source to 1GHz (or any frequency that falls in the VVM frequency range. 1G is good for test)
Verify your source is outputting a non-modulated CW tone with about 0dBm into the splitter input.
Verify your splitter is producing output with a power drop correct for the model splitter. (check both ports)
Ensure power is getting through any cables you are connecting to the VVM from the splitter (check both cables for fault).

Set the VVM to 1GHz using "Freq" hardkey followed by the Frequency softkey, and enter your frequency.
Connect output arms of the splitter to port 1 and port2 of the VVM. 

Observe the displayed signal. If the signal is still varying by a lot (several dB, and or several degrees) then I suspect the VVM has a problem. 

I hope this helps you get a solution. Once again, please inform what your type of device is your DUT. I am especially concerned if the DUT is translating frequency, or is dropping signal by a large amount on one arm. 

I have duplicated this measurement on my bench without the DUT, and can confirm if you follow the instructions above that the results will be stable values of dB and Phase. The N9923A will display a phase offset and there will be a small dB value shown on screen, which can be removed by zeroing the meter. If you change IFBW or Frequency, you must re-zero. 
After zero, insertion of an additional length of cable on one of the splitter arms should show an increase in phase offset and an additional dB offset, which is what you expect with A/B or B/A ratios.

Best Regards,

pc3
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