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M60用于虚拟和特定于供应商的版本以外的其他版本

你好,
我一直在与我信任的供应商合作,以获得与VMware VDI(水平视图)一起使用的演示服务器。
他终于找到了一个合理的规格服务器(联想),但无法让M60继续使用该演示。
他表示,联想批准的M60的价格是8,000美元以上。
我在eBay和亚马逊M60卡上找到了活跃的惠普品牌和看起来像nVidia OEM M60的卡片。
我会包含链接,但我不确定这个william hill官网 是否允许这些链接。
他们都运行4000美元。
由于这只是一个演示项目,而且直到明年这个时候我才有可能购买VDI,如果我继续购买M60,那么有一个替代的家就可以了。
所以这里有两个问题:
1.是否有人在其服务器中使用HP M60 / Dell M60 / OEM M60而不是HP / Lenovo / Dell用于VDI?
我无法想象这就像戴尔/惠普检查特定固件的硬盘一样。
2.一旦我完成了我的演示,并返回了服务器,并且坐在这张闪亮的M60卡上,是否有任何桌面应用程序(非虚拟)可以使用M60?
在#2的支持性附加细节中,我有一个内部GIS人员,为ESRI ArcGIS Desktop和Pro(10.whateverismostrecent)运行旧的Quadro M4000。
我可以将M60推入他的工作站,除了他的M4000之外,ESRI还能利用它吗?
基本上我正在寻找一个用例来证明4000美元的花费。
提前致谢,
蒂姆

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Hi There,

I've been working with one of my trusted vendors to get a demo server to be used with VMware VDI (horizon view). He has finally sourced me a reasonable spec server (Lenovo) but was unable to get the M60 to go with the demo. He has indicated that his price is north of $8,000 for a Lenovo sanctioned M60.

I've found on eBay and Amazon M60 cards, active, both HP branded and what looks like nVidia OEM M60's. I'd include links but I'm not sure they are permitted on this forum. They are all running $4000.

As this is just a demo project, and I'm not likely to get buy in on VDI until this time next year, if I go ahead and buy the M60, it would be nice to have an alternative home for it. So there are two questions here:

1. Is anyone using HP M60/Dell M60/OEM M60 in their server that is not HP/Lenovo/Dell for VDI? I can't imagine this is like hard drives where Dell/HP check for specific firmware.

2. Once I've completed my demo, and returned the server, and am sitting with this shiny M60 card, are there any desktop applications (non-virtual) that would utilise an M60?

In supportive additional detail for #2, I have an in house GIS guy that runs an older Quadro M4000 for ESRI ArcGIS Desktop and Pro (10.whateverismostrecent). Could I shove this M60 into his workstation, and in addition to his M4000, would ESRI take advantage of it? Essentially I'm looking for a use case to justify the $4000 spend.

Thanks in advance,

Tim

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郭武莱

2018-9-6 10:14:03
嗨蒂姆
我将以思科为例,因为我们将这些用于我们的平台。
1.当然,当您通过思科购买GPU时,他们确实进行了一些修改,以使UCSM能够查看/管理它们。
这不是性能修改,它只是允许系统识别它是思科提供的GPU。
对于联想/惠普/戴尔等是否相同,我不确定。
但是,这不会将它们绑定到特定的供应商机箱,并且可以在其他机箱中使用。
如果有人要在思科之外购买M60,但是将其安装在其中一台服务器上,那么它绝对可以工作,但是你无法通过UCSM进行管理,因此会失去一些好处,你需要
确保它是单独支持的,因为虽然支持配置,但思科不支持它(实际的GPU)。
当思科提供的GPU安装在思科服务器中时,这会将服务器配置为与非思科提供的GPU略有不同的方式。
我不确定我在这里可以说多少细节,所以为了我的NDA,我会留在那里。
可以说GPU变体之间存在明显的差异,并且为了获得最佳的整体性能,管理和支持,您应该在使用服务器时使用供应商提供的版本。
因此,在回答您的问题时,是的,您将能够在任何支持的服务器中使用这些M60 GPU,但是也可以在这些和供应商提供的服务器之间存在潜在的差异(如前所述,肯定与思科有关)。
一个稍微冗长的回答,但我认为值得让社区了解更多细节。
2.即使在裸机安装中,也不要忘记您需要许可M60以便能够正确使用它。
然而,这甚至不是你使用它的最大问题,M60被设计为由于需要冷却它所需的气流而位于服务器内。
如果将其添加到PC /工作站中,由于缺乏足够的冷却,您可能会严重损坏它。
我的建议是,在您完成POC之后将其出售,并购买Quadro以替换M4000或为下一个项目节省资金。
由于您目前没有安装GPU的服务器,请确保在购买M60时,还要检查是否需要适用于Lenovo服务器的GPU支持套件。
通常,这包括一些低调的CPU热同步和GPU电源线。
当您在购买服务器时从供应商处购买GPU时,这通常会突出显示,因此您不会忘记它,是的,您确实需要它。
关于这些(和其他)GPU的成本,Nvidia实际上以非常优惠的价格出售它们。
之后发生的事情显然超出了他们的控制范围。
像SuperMicro这样的供应商可以提供更便宜的Nvidia GPU套件,您可能需要查看。
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Hi Tim

I'm going to use Cisco as an example, as that's who we use for our platforms.

1. Certainly when you purchase the GPUs through Cisco, they do have a little modification to enable UCSM to be able to see / manage them. This is not a performance modification, it just allows the system to recognize that it is a Cisco supplied GPU. Whether this is the same for Lenovo / HP / Dell etc, I'm unsure. However, this doesn't bind them to a specific vendors chassis and they can be used in other chassis.

If someone were to purchase an M60 outside of Cisco, but installed it in one of their servers, it will absolutely work, but you won't be able to manage it through UCSM and therefore lose some of the benefits, and you would need to ensure it was supported separately, as although the configuration will be supported, it (the actual GPU) won't be supported by Cisco.

When Cisco supplied GPUs are installed in Cisco servers, this configures the server in a slightly different way to non-Cisco supplied GPUs. I'm not sure how much detail I'm allowed to say on here, so in the interests of my NDA, I'll leave it there. Suffice it to say there are definite differences between the GPU variants, and for the best overall performance, management and support, you should use the vendor supplied versions when using their servers.

So in answer to your question, yes, you'll be able to use those M60 GPUs in any supported server, but also yes, there are potential differences (as mentioned, certainly with Cisco) between those and the vendor supplied ones. A slightly long winded answer, but I thought it worthwhile letting the community know a bit more detail.

2. Even in a Bare-Metal install, don't forget you need to license the M60 to be able to use it properly. However, that's not even your biggest issue with using it like that, the M60 is designed to sit within a server due to the airflow required to cool it. If you add it into a PC / Workstation, you risk seriously damaging it due to the lack of adequate cooling. My advice, sell it after you've completed your POC, and either buy a Quadro to replace the M4000 or save the money for your next project.

As you currently have a server without a GPU installed, be sure that when you purchase the M60, you also check whether you need the GPU enablement kit for your Lenovo server. Typically, this consists of some low profile CPU heat-syncs and the GPU power cable. When you buy the GPUs from the vendor when purchasing a server, this is usually highlighted so you don't forget it, and yes, you do need it.

Regarding the cost of these (and other) GPUs, Nvidia actually sells them at a very good price. What happens after that is obviously outside of their control. There are vendors such as SuperMicro that offer less expensive Nvidia GPU packages that you may want to check out.

Regards

Ben
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