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基于网格k340或k520构建本地游戏服务器什么许可模式最好?

嗨,
我正在考虑基于网格k340或k520构建本地游戏服务器。
什么是最好的许可模式?
虚拟应用程序或虚拟PC方案?

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Hi,
I'm thinking about building a local game server based on either grid k340 or k520. What will be the best licensing model? Virtual Application or Virtual PC scenario?

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王晶

2018-9-27 16:15:22
嗨,
取决于OS平台。
vApps许可证仅适用于终端服务(服务器操作系统),vPC适用于VDI。
所以我假设你会选择vPC。
但你提到K340或K520,这些卡不是特斯拉卡(不确定它们是否可用),不需要许可。
对于当前的游戏性能,至少要看一下GRID M60卡是有意义的。
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西蒙

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Hi,

depends on the OS platform. vApps license is for Terminal Services (Server OS) only and vPC is for VDI. Therefore I assume you would go with vPC. But you mentioned K340 or K520, these cards aren't Tesla based cards (not sure if they are available any more at all) and shouldn't need licensing. For current gaming performance it would make sense to have at least a look on GRID M60 card.

Regards
Simon
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王赛

2018-9-27 16:26:58
你好
正如Simon上面所说,开普勒GRID卡不需要许可证,所以如果你使用你提到的那些,就没有额外的费用。
但是,他们使用的是2代旧架构,因此根据您的性能,功能和会话数量要求,您可能会更好地查看基于Maxwell的更现代的卡,或者更优选(并且取决于以下内容)Pascal。
您打算使用哪种Hypervisor?
您打算主持哪种类型的游戏?
任何FPS要求?
你打算如何进入游戏?
您计划为每台物理服务器托管多少个会话?
这是一个生产或概念证明型平台吗?
我对这些问题的答案感兴趣,因为可能有更合适的替代方案......
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Hi

As Simon says above, the Kepler GRID Cards don't require licenses, so if you use the ones you've mentioned, there's no additional cost. However, they are using an architecture that's 2 generations old, so depending on your performance, feature and session count requirements, you may be better looking at a more modern Card based on Maxwell or more preferably (and depending on the below) Pascal.

Which Hypervisor are you planning to use?
Which type of games are you planning to host?
Any FPS requirements?
How are you planning to access the games?
How many sessions are you planning to host per physical server?
Is this a production or proof of concept type platform?

I'd be interested in the answers to those questions, as there may be more suitable alternatives...

Regards

Ben
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陈桂兰

2018-9-27 16:43:31
嗨,
thnx为你的答案。
- 目前我正计划拥有WMWare Horizo​​n hypervisor;
- 我想运行最新的游戏,如GTA V,Mafia III等;
- 我们目前正在开发SDK示例。
我们的想法是依靠它为自己构建的客户端用于游戏流;
- 根据M60技术规格,拥有32个CCU是可行的。
我想了解哪3种许可模式符合我的要求,以防每个连接用户都有一个专用VDI,用户端的标准PC将用于抓取流视频和控制专用VDI。

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Hi,

thnx for your answer.
- At the moment I'm planning to have WMWare Horizon hypervisor;
- I would like to run newest games like GTA V, Mafia III etc.;  
- we are currently working on SDK samples. The idea is to rely on it for own built client to be used for game streaming;
- as per M60 tech specs it is feasible to have 32 CCU. I would like to understand which of 3 licensing models will fit my requirements in case there will be one dedicated VDI for every connected user and a standard PC on user end will be used to grab streaming video and control a dedicated VDI.
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李郝荫

2018-9-27 17:03:20
你好
好的,因此vSphere是您的Hypervisor,Horizo​​n / Blast是您的交付机制。
根据您希望提供的体验类型,您可能希望修改您的CCU期望。
您需要使用具有最高系统要求的游戏作为最低要求,并且使用您提到的2,即黑手党。
黑手党的最低要求是快速多核CPU(3.3Ghz),2GB GPU和6GB RAM。
GPU将是您的CCU限制,因为您受到vGPU配置文件限制的约束。
所以使用2x M60s,你会看到最多16个CCU。
由于内存在启动时硬分配给VM(您无法使用VMware内存共享技术),因此您还需要仅为VM提供96GB的服务器RAM,因此整个服务器实际上需要128GB。
对于CPU,使用英特尔E5-2667 v4为您提供8个核心@ 3.2Ghz(16个带HT)。
因此,如果两个插槽都填充,则有16个真实核心和32个HT。
如果您坚持使用最低建议,那么您将为每个VM分配4个vCPU。
有16个VM和您的CPU规格,这是2倍CPU超额提交,加上Hypervisor要求。
如果您的其他游戏具有更高的最低要求,则必须调整服务器/ VM规格和CCU以对其进行说明。
如果您的任何游戏需要超过60FPS,那么您将不得不查看其他选项,因为vGPU配置文件的最大限制为60FPS。
您可以使用命令绕过此命令,但随后可能会影响所有其他VM,因为单个vGPU配置文件可能会消耗比其他VM更多的资源。
但是,对于一个完全填充的服务器,我怀疑你会在每个会话上达到60FPS,但它仍然需要注意。
关于许可,使用2GB vGPU(请记住,2GB是最高要求),您可能只有1个选项。
我不得不对此进行更多调查,因为我不是100%,但唯一的选择是vWS许可证(M60-2Q)。
您无法使用vPC许可证的原因是因为1GB是当前允许的最高vGPU配置文件。
至于vApp许可证,虽然它允许1-8GB vGPU配置文件,但您提供的是完整的桌面,而不是应用程序。
许可证为我提出了一个有趣的技术问题,我已经请求Nvidia的Rachel澄清了。
当我得到答案时,我会更新这个,因为它可能提供额外的许可选项。
您可能希望调查此设计的潜在替代方案......
为清楚起见,我使用了以下链接中的规范和参考:
黑手党:http://support.2k.com/hc/en-us/articles/226127108-Mafia-III-PC-System-Requirements
GTA V:http://www.rockstargames.com/V/info/pc/specs
英特尔:http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2667-v4-25M-Cache-3_20-GHz
NVIDIA许可:http://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/grid/guides/GRID-Packaging-and-Licensing-Guide.pdf
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Hi

Ok, so vSphere is your Hypervisor, and Horizon / Blast is your delivery mechanism.

Depending on the kind of experience you want to deliver, you may want to revise your CCU expectations. You need to use the game with the highest system requirements as your minimum, and with the 2 you have mentioned, that's Mafia.

Mafia's minimum requirements are a fast multi-core CPU (3.3Ghz), 2GB GPU and 6GB RAM. The GPU will be your CCU limit, as you are bound by the limit of the vGPU profiles. So with 2x M60s, you're looking at a Max of 16 CCU. Because the memory is hard allocated to the VM on boot (you cannot use VMwares memory sharing technology) you'll also need 96GB of server RAM just for the VMs, so realistically 128GB for the entire server. As for CPU, using Intels E5-2667 v4 gives you 8 Cores @ 3.2Ghz (16 with HT). So with both sockets populated you have 16 real cores and 32 HT. If you stick with the minimum recommendations, you're going to be allocating 4 vCPUs per VM. With 16 VMs and your CPU specifications, that's a 2x CPU over-commit, plus the Hypervisor requirements.

If your other games have a higher minimum requirement, you'll have to adjust your server / VM specs and CCU to account for it.

If any of your games require more than 60FPS, then you will have to look at other options, as the vGPU profiles have a 60FPS max limit. You can bypass this with a command, but you then risk impacting all other VMs as a single vGPU profile can consume more resource than the others. However, with a fully populated server, I doubt you'll hit 60FPS on every session, but it's something to be aware of nonetheless.

Regarding licensing, using a 2GB vGPU (remember, 2GB being the highest minimum requirement), you potentially have only 1 option. I had to investigate this a little more as I wasn't 100%, but the only option is the vWS license (M60-2Q).

The reason you can't use the vPC license, is because 1GB is the highest vGPU profile currently allowed. As for the vApp license, although it will allow 1-8GB vGPU profiles, you are delivering a full desktop, not an App.

The licensing has raised an interesting technical query for me, and I've asked Rachel from Nvidia for clarification. I'll update this when I have an answer as it may provide additional licensing options.

There are potential alternatives to this design you may wish to investigate ...

For clarity, I've used specifications and references from these links:

Mafia: http://support.2k.com/hc/en-us/articles/226127108-Mafia-III-PC-System-Requirements
GTA V: http://www.rockstargames.com/V/info/pc/specs

Intel: http://ark.intel.com/products/92979/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2667-v4-25M-Cache-3_20-GHz
NVIDIA Licensing: http://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/grid/guides/GRID-Packaging-and-Licensing-Guide.pdf

Regards

Ben
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