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无法在HDMI 2.0上找到兼容NUC7PJYH的4K电视

当我购买NUC7PJYH时,我计划使用预算4K电视作为它的监视器。
为此,支持4K(3840x2160)分辨率为60Hz,4:4:4色度子采样至关重要。
由于这是HDMI 2.0规范的一部分,我预计,任何支持HDMI 2.0的电视都能正常工作。
令人惊讶的是,经过半年的研究,我无法在HDMI 2.0上找到兼容NUC7PJYH的4K电视。
结果,400美元(NUC + Mem + SSD)只是躺了半年,等待兼容的电视出现。
看起来双子座CPU中的HDMI 2.0支持最多是“部分”的,并且与不同的电视品牌表现非常不同。
兼容的电视应至少通过这些基本测试(对于日常使用非常重要):
4K-60-444 - 可以将电视配置为在Windows下以60Hz的原始4K分辨率和4:4:4色度子采样工作。
POST时的NUC徽标 - 启动时显示NUC徽标 - 在启动时按F2后,可以进入BIOS(并查看).PC睡眠唤醒 - 暂停PC并唤醒后,正常图片出现.TV睡眠
- 唤醒 - 暂停电视并将其唤醒后,会出现正常的图像。
以下是我不太成功的研究摘要。
如果您能分享您对与NUC7PJYH或NUC7CJYH兼容的电视机型的积极/消极体验,我将不胜感激。
它可能有助于我和其他用户搜索兼容的电视。
谢谢,彼得

以上来自于谷歌翻译


以下为原文

When I bought NUC7PJYH I planned to use a budget 4K TV as a monitor for it.  For that, it is critical to support 4K (3840x2160) resolution at 60Hz with 4:4:4 chroma sub-sampling. Since this is a part of HDMI 2.0 specification, I expected, that any HDMI 2.0 capable TV would work. Surprisingly, after a half-year research I could not find a 4K TV compatible with NUC7PJYH at HDMI 2.0. As a result, a $400 pc (NUC+Mem+SSD) is just lying around for half a year and waiting for a compatible TV to appear.  It looks like HDMI 2.0 support in Gemini Lake CPUs is “partial” at best and behaves very differently with different TV brands.

A compatible TV should pass at least these basic tests (important for normal everyday usage):
  • 4K-60-444 – It possible to configure the TV to work under Windows in native 4K resolution at 60Hz with 4:4:4 chroma subsampling.
  • NUC logo at POST – NUC logo is shown at boot time
  • BIOS – After pressing F2 at boot time one can get into BIOS (and see it).
  • PC sleep-wake – After suspending PC and waking it back the normal picture appears.
  • TV sleep-wake – After suspending TV and waking it back the normal picture appears.

Below is a summary my not very successful research.

I would greatly appreciate if you could share your positive/negative experience regarding TV models compatible with NUC7PJYH or NUC7CJYH. It might help me and other users in their search of a compatible TV.  

Thanks,
Peter

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张桂芳

2018-10-19 14:18:43
4K电视和显示器兼容性列表。
电视
4K-
60-
444
POST时的NUC徽标
BIOS
PC睡眠唤醒
电视睡眠唤醒
笔记
三星电视
称为“PC”并配置为“UHD颜色”的HDMI端口为ON
三星UE40MU6100
-
-
-
X
X
类似美国版:UN40MU6300
三星UE55MU6100
-
-
-
X
X
类似美国版:UN55MU6300
三星QE55Q7FAM
-
-
-
X
X
类似美国版:QN55Q7FAMFXZA
三星UE43NU7170
-
-
-
X
X
新的2018年型号
三星UE55MU9000
-
-
-
X
X
三星U***55NU7170
-
-
-
X

新的2018年型号
索尼电视
'图片模式'='游戏','HDMI信号格式'='增强格式',HDMI端口2或3
索尼KD-49XF8577
+
+
+


索尼KD-65XE7096
+
+
+

-
夏普LC-55CUG8052E
-
+
+


我无法打开444色度。
只有422
松下TX58EXR700
-
+
+


只有4:2:2
LG 65UK6100
-
+
+


仅有422.此外,大多数预算LG 4K电视都具有RGBW亚像素结构,当电视用作显示器时,它看起来非常难看。
显示
三星U28E590D
+
+
-


连接到HDMI2(支持60Hz)。
三星LU28E590DS / ZA
+
+
-
+
+
连接到HDMI2(支持60Hz)。
LG 27UK600-W
+
+
+
+
+
连接到HDMI1
+测试通过
- 测试失败
x不适用

未经测试

以上来自于谷歌翻译


以下为原文

4K TVs and displays compatibility list.
 
TV

4K-

60-

444

NUC logo at POST

BIOS

PC sleep-wake

TV sleep-wake

Notes

Samsung TVs
 

 

 

 

 

HDMI port called "PC" and configured "UHD color" is ON
Samsung UE40MU6100
-

-

-

x

x

similar US version: UN40MU6300
Samsung UE55MU6100
-

-

-

x

x

similar US version: UN55MU6300
Samsung QE55Q7FAM
-

-

-

x

x

similar US version: QN55Q7FAMFXZA
Samsung UE43NU7170
-

-

-

x

x

new 2018 model
Samsung UE55MU9000
-

-

-

x

x

 
Samsung U***55NU7170
-

-

-

x

x

new 2018 model
 
 

 

 

 

 

 
Sony TV
 

 

 

 

 

'Picture mode'='Game',  'HDMI signal format'='Enhanced format', HDMI port 2 or 3
Sony KD-49XF8577
+

+

+

?

?

 
Sony KD-65XE7096
+

+

+

?

-

 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 
Sharp LC-55CUG8052E
-

+

+

?

?

I was not able to turn on 444 chroma. Only 422
Panasonic TX58EXR700
-

+

+

?

?

Only 4:2:2
LG 65UK6100
-

+

+

?

?

Only 422. Besides, most budget LG 4K TVs have RGBW subpixel structure which looks pretty ugly when TV is used as a monitor.
 
 

 

 

 

 

 
Display
 

 

 

 

 

 
Samsung U28E590D
+

+

-

?

?

Connected to HDMI2 (which supports 60Hz).
Samsung LU28E590DS/ZA
+

+

-

+

+

Connected to HDMI2 (which supports 60Hz).
LG 27UK600-W
+

+

+

+

+

Connected to HDMI1
 
+  test passed
-  test failed
x  not applicable
?  not tested
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汤宇

2018-10-19 14:37:41
引用: 此僧唯一自传 发表于 2018-10-19 07:02
4K电视和显示器兼容性列表。
电视
4K-

您好PeterNUC,一如既往,感谢您在我们的英特尔®社区发布。您的反馈非常感谢,因为这篇文章可以作为其他社区同行的参考,可能正在寻找兼容我们的英特尔®NUC套件NUC7PJYH的4K电视,以及
它还将继续为他们发布他们的经验。此外,我想分享我们的4K电视的官方英特尔®产品兼容性列表你会发现5个英特尔®Validated的电视机型。我希望这有帮助.Regards,Diego S


以上来自于谷歌翻译


以下为原文

Hello PeterNUC,
As always, thank you for posting in our Intel ® Community.
Your feedback is much appreciated as this post will work as a reference for other community peers that might be looking for compatible 4K televisions with our Intel® NUC Kit NUC7PJYH, and it will remain open for them to post their experience.
In addition, I would like to share our official Intel® Product Compatibility list for 4K televisions
There you will find 5 TV models that are Intel ®Validated.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Diego S.
 
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李玉鑫

2018-10-19 14:51:18
引用: jerry1978 发表于 2018-10-19 07:21
您好PeterNUC,一如既往,感谢您在我们的英特尔®社区发布。您的反馈非常感谢,因为这篇文章可以作为其他社区同行的参考,可能正在寻找兼容我们的英特尔®NUC套件NUC7PJYH的4K电视,以及
它还将继续为他们发布他们的经验。此外,我想分享我们的4K电视的官方英特尔®产品兼容性列表你会发现5个英特尔®Validated的电视机型。 ...

你好Diego S.,
感谢您的留言和“4K电视的兼容性列表”。
我以前见过它。
此列表存在严重问题:
5个提到的电视中有3个甚至不是4K - 只是全高清。没有说明哪些设置/场景得到验证。
我强烈怀疑,任何关注都支持HDMI 2.0(HDMI 2.0甚至不适用于全高清电视)那里提到的唯一2台4K电视(LG 40UF675T和三星UA55JU6000)都是旧型号。
甚至他们的规格(特别是HDMI 2.0支持)也很难找到,而不是说电视。
英特尔验证监视器列表看起来更加可靠,但同样,没有任何关于什么是“验证”的说法。
而且,其中一些只是FHD,有些4K不支持HDMI 2.0。
例如,三星U28D590D仅支持HDMI 1.4(https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/uhd-ud590/)。
其继任者U28E590D确实支持HDMI2上的HDMI 2.0,但NUC7PJYH存在问题 - 不显示BIOS。
因此,我发现这个“4K电视的兼容性列表”完全没用且误导。
问候,彼得

以上来自于谷歌翻译


以下为原文

Hello Diego S.,
 
Thank you for your message and for "Compatibility list for 4K televisions". I've seen it before. There are serious problems with this list:
 

  • 3 of 5 mentioned TVs are not even 4K - just Full HD.
  • It is not clarified which settings/scenarios are verified. And I strongly doubt, any attention was paid to HDMI 2.0 support (HDMI 2.0 is not even applicable to Full Hd TVs)
  • The only 2 4K TVs mentioned there (LG 40UF675T and Samsung UA55JU6000) are old models. Even their specs (specifically, HDMI 2.0 support) is very hard to find, not speaking of the TVs.
 
The list of Intel Validated Monitors looks more solid, but, again, nothing is said about what is "Validated". And again, some of them are just FHD, and some 4K do not support HDMI 2.0.  For example, Samsung U28D590D only supports HDMI 1.4 (https://www.samsung.com/uk/monitors/uhd-ud590/). And its successor U28E590D does support HDMI 2.0 on HDMI2, but has a issue with NUC7PJYH - does not show BIOS.
 
So, I find this "Compatibility list for 4K televisions" completely useless and misleading.
 
Regards,
Peter
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汤宇

2018-10-19 15:08:39
引用: cd340823 发表于 2018-10-19 07:35
你好Diego S.,
感谢您的留言和“4K电视的兼容性列表”。
我以前见过它。

您好PeterNUC,感谢您的回复。我们非常感谢您的反馈。我们目前正在发送您的反馈意见以及您收集的所有信息。我们会在收到更多信息后立即回复您。我希望这会有所帮助。
此致,Diego S.

以上来自于谷歌翻译


以下为原文

Hello PeterNUC,
Thank you for your response.
We really appreciate your feedback.
We are currently sending your feedback for review along with all the information gathered by you.
We will post you back as soon as we have more information.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Diego S.
 
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